{"id":3952,"date":"2025-03-20T17:12:04","date_gmt":"2025-03-20T17:12:04","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/conversation-dr-helga-huskamp"},"modified":"2025-07-24T17:59:40","modified_gmt":"2025-07-24T17:59:40","slug":"conversation-dr-helga-huskamp","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/conversation-dr-helga-huskamp","title":{"rendered":"Conversation - Dr. Helga Huskamp"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-page\" data-elementor-id=\"3952\" class=\"elementor elementor-3952 elementor-2763\" data-elementor-post-type=\"page\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e9aaadb e-flex e-con-boxed e-con e-parent\" data-id=\"e9aaadb\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"e-con-inner\">\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-60139b2 e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"60139b2\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f17c134 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f17c134\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>amass\u00e9, form\u00e9, stratifi\u00e9, \u00e9largi, r\u00e9tr\u00e9ci, sur\u00e9lev\u00e9, enlev\u00e9<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5dfb8b6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"5dfb8b6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Dr. Helga Huskamp <em>(Directrice du ZKM, 2021 - 2023)<\/em> en conversation avec Gabriele Engelhardt<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-48fda02 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"48fda02\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Lorsque je suis arriv\u00e9e au ZKM, j'ai fait ta connaissance en tant qu'artiste bas\u00e9e \u00e0 Karlsruhe. Mais dans ton \u0153uvre photographique, tu te d\u00e9places dans beaucoup d'autres endroits, tant au niveau du contenu que de la narration. Dans ta s\u00e9rie d'\u0153uvres \u00ab\u00a0raw_material\u00a0\u00bb, il est surtout question des ports de Kehl et de Krems, et toujours d'Edenkoben. Vous y passez beaucoup de temps.   <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1ace7c4 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1ace7c4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Vous devez ajouter Linz et B\u00e2le pour que la carte de mes lieux de bourses et d'exposition de ces derni\u00e8res ann\u00e9es soit compl\u00e8te. Mais en r\u00e9alit\u00e9, Kehl, Krems et Edenkoben occupent une place particuli\u00e8re, car c'est dans ces lieux que mes s\u00e9ries d'\u0153uvres r\u00e9centes se sont d\u00e9velopp\u00e9es. <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-06e6700 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"06e6700\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Une ville comme Krems est situ\u00e9e dans un cadre naturel magnifique, au bord du Danube. Mais vous ne vous \u00eates int\u00e9ress\u00e9 sur place qu'au port industriel. <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-e104261 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"e104261\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Oui, pendant les quatre semaines de mon s\u00e9jour de bourse \u00e0 Krems en 2022, j'ai r\u00f4d\u00e9 autour du port comme une tigresse. Un an plus tard, j'y suis retourn\u00e9e pour faire des photos. Je suis fascin\u00e9e par les endroits o\u00f9 il y a des mat\u00e9riaux dans des volumes gigantesques, par exemple des montagnes de ferraille ou quelque chose de similaire. Et des ports comme Krems et Kehl stockent des mat\u00e9riaux en vrac qui sont pour moi des mat\u00e9riaux bruts passionnants \u00e0 bien des \u00e9gards. C'est pourquoi le catalogue, qui pr\u00e9sente une grande partie des \u0153uvres de cette s\u00e9rie, s'intitule \u00ab\u00a0raw_material\u00a0\u00bb. Je trouve les mati\u00e8res premi\u00e8res, leurs diff\u00e9rentes formes et couleurs passionnantes. Les quantit\u00e9s \u00e9normes de ces mat\u00e9riaux, qui ne sont d\u00e9j\u00e0 plus des accumulations mais prennent la dimension de montagnes, sont stup\u00e9fiantes. Et lorsque l'on pense que ces mati\u00e8res premi\u00e8res sont limit\u00e9es sur notre plan\u00e8te, un aspect politique vient s'ajouter : les montagnes sont aussi des m\u00e9taphores de l'accumulation de la \u00ab\u00a0finitude\u00a0\u00bb.       <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-06633c7 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"06633c7\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Pourquoi avez-vous choisi le port de Krems?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f104e5f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f104e5f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Lorsque je travaille sur une nouvelle s\u00e9rie, j'ai besoin de beaucoup de temps pour bien conna\u00eetre l'endroit o\u00f9 je veux prendre des photos. Tous les d\u00e9tails sont importants pour le processus de recherche. En particulier, quel mat\u00e9riel est disponible sur place, quand le terrain est accessible sans g\u00eaner les travailleurs dans leur travail quotidien, qui pourrait m'aider \u00e0 amasser les montagnes de mat\u00e9riel et quand je dois m'attendre \u00e0 ce qu'une \u00ab\u00a0montagne\u00a0\u00bb soit d\u00e9j\u00e0 d\u00e9blay\u00e9e parce qu'elle est transport\u00e9e plus loin. Je fais des recherches tr\u00e8s pr\u00e9cises \u00e0 l'avance. Comme il n'y a pas beaucoup de villes avec des ports ou de grandes entreprises de traitement des d\u00e9chets qui permettent d'obtenir une bourse, le s\u00e9jour \u00e0 Krems a \u00e9t\u00e9 une v\u00e9ritable aubaine.    <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c6be10f elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c6be10f\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Et de quelles \u00ab\u00a0montagnes\u00a0\u00bb s'agit-il \u00e0 Edenkoben et Kehl?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-73485c5 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"73485c5\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>A Edenkoben, c'est la zone de recyclage avec ses d\u00e9chets plastiques issus de la culture mara\u00eech\u00e8re qui m'a impressionn\u00e9. L'utilisation de films plastiques est courante dans l'agriculture depuis de nombreuses d\u00e9cennies. Des r\u00e9gions enti\u00e8res sont recouvertes de ces films afin de prot\u00e9ger les jeunes plants, de les faire m\u00fbrir plus t\u00f4t et, surtout, d'\u00e9viter que les sols ne se dess\u00e8chent. Cela g\u00e9n\u00e8re des quantit\u00e9s inimaginables de d\u00e9chets plastiques. C'est d'ailleurs un concours de photographie organis\u00e9 par la ville en 2016 qui m'a amen\u00e9 \u00e0 Kehl. La condition du concours \u00e9tait que les photographies devaient avoir un lien concret avec la ville. Apr\u00e8s plusieurs jours sur place, je suis ensuite tomb\u00e9 sur les \u00ab\u00a0montagnes de Kehl\u00a0\u00bb. L\u00e0-bas, comme \u00e0 Krems, les collaborateurs du service culturel ont \u00e9t\u00e9 surpris que je choisisse le port comme lieu. Une petite montagne de charbon, fortement \u00e9rod\u00e9e par le vent et les intemp\u00e9ries, a alors imm\u00e9diatement attir\u00e9 mon attention. La structure de surface et les couleurs de cette montagne m'avaient extr\u00eamement fascin\u00e9. Elle a \u00e9t\u00e9 le point de d\u00e9part de toutes les autres montagnes que j'ai photographi\u00e9es par la suite.          <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cde9193 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cde9193\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Vous avez d'abord \u00e9tudi\u00e9 la sculpture \u00e0 la Staatliche Akademie der Bildenden K\u00fcnste de Stuttgart, puis la photographie \u00e0 la Hochschule f\u00fcr Gestaltung de Karlsruhe. Vous travaillez maintenant avec des mat\u00e9riaux en vrac comme mati\u00e8re premi\u00e8re ou \u00ab\u00a0raw_material\u00a0\u00bb. Comment en est-on arriv\u00e9 l\u00e0? <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9319274 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"9319274\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Il faut que je revienne un peu en arri\u00e8re. Dans le domaine de la sculpture, il existe depuis des si\u00e8cles des mat\u00e9riaux classiques qui n'ont gu\u00e8re chang\u00e9 jusqu'\u00e0 aujourd'hui : La pierre, le bois, le bronze et, depuis le 20e si\u00e8cle, des produits industriels comme le plastique et l'acier. Cela a une certaine monotonie, d'autant plus que les artistes entrent en symbiose avec le mat\u00e9riau sur la dur\u00e9e du travail. J'ai toujours trouv\u00e9 cela trop \u00e9troit et j'ai voulu \u00e9largir l'espace sculptural, au sens propre du terme. Pour cela, j'avais besoin d'un autre m\u00e9dium comme la photographie. Ma question principale concernant la photographie est de savoir comment cr\u00e9er une impression d'espace et de plasticit\u00e9 sur une surface bidimensionnelle. \u00c0 cela s'ajoute ma grande curiosit\u00e9 pour tout ce qui nous constitue en tant que soci\u00e9t\u00e9. Et ces d\u00e9bris et d\u00e9chets sont aussi une source d'histoires de notre soci\u00e9t\u00e9 - copeaux de bois, pav\u00e9s, silicates, charbon, ferraille, lentilles en acier brut ou encore le spath de la For\u00eat Noire. \u00c0 Kehl, des millions de particules ont parfois fait le tour du monde et sont \u00e0 nouveau accumul\u00e9es, assembl\u00e9es, s\u00e9par\u00e9es et recompos\u00e9es. \u00c0 Krems, de nombreux m\u00e9taux pr\u00e9cieux sont transbord\u00e9s. A Edenkoben, ce sont les b\u00e2ches en plastique des cultures mara\u00eech\u00e8res. On y voit une image de notre vie mat\u00e9rielle, l'histoire et la g\u00e9ographie des lieux ainsi que le commerce mondial des mati\u00e8res premi\u00e8res et des d\u00e9chets.           <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d9cd200 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d9cd200\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Dans vos s\u00e9ries de photos, vous traduisez cette accumulation de mat\u00e9riaux industriels bruts en une esth\u00e9tique visuelle rigoureuse. Que se passe-t-il exactement entre la sculpture et la photographie? <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f3cc8fe elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f3cc8fe\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>L'esth\u00e9tique visuelle est ce qui sera ensuite visible sur le mur en tant qu'art photographique. Mais avant cela, il y a le processus de fabrication. Je passe beaucoup de temps dans les ports et les zones de recyclage, je m'approprie les lieux dans leur ensemble si possible. C'est ainsi que je suis tr\u00e8s proche du port de Kehl depuis plus de sept ans.   <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-fdbc5f0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"fdbc5f0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Pouvez-vous nous parler plus en d\u00e9tail du processus de fabrication ? Il s'agit certes de la partie \u00ab\u00a0invisible\u00a0\u00bb de ton travail, mais il me semble important pour ton \u0153uvre de savoir \u00e0 quel point tu t'enfonces dans les structures des lieux. <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-c60c4b8 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"c60c4b8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>La partie conceptuelle est essentielle dans mon travail. O\u00f9 n'ai-je pas pass\u00e9 des journ\u00e9es enti\u00e8res, avec ou sans appareil photo, \u00e0 me familiariser avec le lieu et ses mat\u00e9riaux. Les personnes qui travaillent sur place sont \u00e9galement essentielles. Il s'agit presque exclusivement d'hommes qui, au d\u00e9but, sont toujours tr\u00e8s \u00e9trangers \u00e0 moi et \u00e0 la cam\u00e9ra. Mais avec le temps, nous nous rapprochons et, \u00e0 un moment donn\u00e9, ils soutiennent mon travail en r\u00e9organisant les couches ou les mat\u00e9riaux en vrac avec leurs griffes et leurs pelles. Ils r\u00e9fl\u00e9chissent et d\u00e9veloppent leurs propres id\u00e9es par rapport \u00e0 mon projet. J'ai \u00e9galement \u00e9t\u00e9 invit\u00e9 \u00e0 monter sur le portique pour prendre des photos d'en haut. Alors que les \u0153uvres les plus r\u00e9centes de la s\u00e9rie Montagnes, \u00e0 partir de 2020, n'ont \u00e9t\u00e9 que partiellement d\u00e9plac\u00e9es et arrang\u00e9es par les travailleurs sp\u00e9cialement pour mes prises de vue, les photographies de la s\u00e9rie Montagnes en plastique ont \u00e9t\u00e9 model\u00e9es \u00e0 l'aide d'un \u00e9quipement lourd uniquement sur mes instructions. J'aime particuli\u00e8rement cette fa\u00e7on de travailler, car les grutiers prennent en charge une partie importante du processus de travail. Ils apportent leurs propres id\u00e9es et c'est ainsi que les \u00ab\u00a0montagnes\u00a0\u00bb naissent devant la cam\u00e9ra, dans une sorte de collaboration. Entre-temps, je suis \u00e9galement devenu presque un professionnel lorsqu'il s'agit des perspectives d'entreprise d'un port et de l'ensemble du secteur. Les ports ne gagnent pas leur vie en stockant, mais surtout en transf\u00e9rant des mat\u00e9riaux. Il n'est donc pas rare que d'\u00e9normes \u00ab\u00a0montagnes\u00a0\u00bb disparaissent quasiment du jour au lendemain et qu'il y en ait de nouvelles le lendemain. Les mat\u00e9riaux qui sont stock\u00e9s, o\u00f9 et dans quel port, sont \u00e9troitement li\u00e9s aux entreprises qui se trouvent sur le site. Je suis fascin\u00e9 par le commerce et le travail avec les mati\u00e8res premi\u00e8res tout au long de la cha\u00eene d'approvisionnement.              <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9533f15 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"9533f15\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Cet int\u00e9r\u00eat intense pour le cosmos portuaire n'appelle-t-il pas plut\u00f4t une photographie documentaire?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-74a2e10 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"74a2e10\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Oui, on pourrait le penser. Mais je pense \u00e0 la fois en tant que photographe et en tant que sculpteur, avec mon int\u00e9r\u00eat tout particulier pour la mani\u00e8re dont une nouvelle plasticit\u00e9 na\u00eet de l'interaction entre le mat\u00e9riau et l'espace. Les s\u00e9ries de montagnes r\u00e9unies dans le catalogue \u00ab\u00a0raw_material\u00a0\u00bb illustrent cela, car les photographies ont une \u00e9norme pr\u00e9sence.  <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b03ff5b elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b03ff5b\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>\u00cates-vous influenc\u00e9 par vos \u00e9tudes \u00e0 la HfG Karlsruhe, o\u00f9 l'art m\u00e9diatique est compris de mani\u00e8re pluridisciplinaire et globale?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-20e68e3 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"20e68e3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>J'ai ador\u00e9 mes \u00e9tudes \u00e0 la HfG. Pr\u00e9cis\u00e9ment parce qu'elle est si ouverte dans ses possibilit\u00e9s m\u00e9diatiques. Pour moi, il est naturel d'assembler num\u00e9riquement mes photographies sur ordinateur \u00e0 partir de nombreuses pi\u00e8ces individuelles, comme un puzzle. Je p\u00e9tris, je mod\u00e8le et je rectifie les donn\u00e9es. En effet, pendant mes \u00e9tudes, j'ai d\u00e9couvert de nombreuses disciplines artistiques diff\u00e9rentes. Du cin\u00e9ma \u00e0 la mod\u00e9lisation 3D, en passant par la sc\u00e9nographie et les d\u00e9cors, jusqu'\u00e0 l'art informatique programm\u00e9. Ce n'est qu'\u00e0 la fin de mes \u00e9tudes que j'ai r\u00e9alis\u00e9 \u00e0 quel point ces multiples influences m\u00e9diatiques avaient marqu\u00e9 mon travail.      <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-9d4b88c elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"9d4b88c\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Photographie et sculpture, j'aimerais aussi ajouter le film comme m\u00e9dia. En effet, vos \u0153uvres sont le fruit d'une post-production num\u00e9rique complexe. Comme une cin\u00e9aste au montage, vous assemblez les photographies \u00e0 partir de centaines de pi\u00e8ces d\u00e9tach\u00e9es.  <\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0749e5e elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"0749e5e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>La comparaison est tr\u00e8s juste. Il y a deux processus de travail chez moi : le shooting sur place avec un grand choix de r\u00e9glages et de perspectives diff\u00e9rents, puis le montage en studio pendant des semaines, y compris la postproduction num\u00e9rique. Comme dans un film d'animation, j'encha\u00eene image par image. Mais comme le mat\u00e9riel est r\u00e9alis\u00e9 sur plusieurs heures et parfois plusieurs jours, et que les conditions d'\u00e9clairage sur place ne sont g\u00e9n\u00e9ralement pas constantes et changent sans cesse, je traite chaque image en amont et j'ajuste le tout \u00e0 la fin. Avant cela, je m'int\u00e9resse \u00e0 la qualit\u00e9 de chaque photo. Je superpose plusieurs niveaux de nettet\u00e9 pour m'assurer que tous les d\u00e9tails de la photo sont bien visibles. Alors qu'en photographie in situ, je proc\u00e8de par grille, c'est-\u00e0-dire que je balaie progressivement l'objet avec l'appareil photo, c'est l'inverse qui se produit au montage. Comme pour la production cin\u00e9matographique, je n'agis pas de mani\u00e8re lin\u00e9aire, mais je travaille en parall\u00e8le dans toutes les directions en partant du centre. Je fais cet effort car il me semble trop banal de reproduire la taille gigantesque des montagnes de mati\u00e8res premi\u00e8res avec une seule photo. Je ne peux pas rendre justice aux dimensions. C'est pourquoi j'entre dans la mat\u00e9rialit\u00e9 des donn\u00e9es num\u00e9riques et, telle une sculptrice, je mod\u00e8le une nouvelle \u0153uvre \u00e0 partir de la mati\u00e8re premi\u00e8re num\u00e9rique. Et cela donne une vision multiple, ou plut\u00f4t une perspective multiple, qui ne pourrait jamais exister avec une seule photo.           <\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-74a715a e-con-full e-flex e-con e-child\" data-id=\"74a715a\" data-element_type=\"container\" data-e-type=\"container\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d193964 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d193964\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>heaped, shaped, layerered, widened, narrowed, raised, eroded<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-898afd3 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"898afd3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Dr. Helga Huskamp <em>(Managing Director of ZKM, 2021 \u2013 2023)<\/em> in conversation with Gabriele Engelhardt<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-4b65aec elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"4b65aec\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>When I came to the ZKM three years ago, I got to know you as an artist based in Karlsruhe. In terms of content and narrative, however, your photographic work takes you to so many other places. Your work series \u201craw_material\u201d is mainly about the ports of Kehl and Krems and time and time and again Edenkoben. That\u2019s the place where you spend a lot of time.<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-416bed0 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"416bed0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>You have to add Linz and Basel to make the map of my scholarship and exhibiton lo- cations of the past three years complete. In fact, Kehl, Krems and Edenkoben play a special role because my most recent series of works developed in these places.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d44c7c9 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d44c7c9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-d44c7c9 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"d44c7c9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\"><div class=\"elementor-widget-container\"><p><strong>A city like Krems lies in beautiful natural surroundings on the river Danube. However, you <\/strong><strong>were only interested in the industrial port.<\/strong><\/p><\/div><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-7be8de3 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"7be8de3\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Yes, during four weeks of my scholarship stay in Krems in 2022, I prowled around the port like a tigress. A year later, I returned to photograph it again. I\u2019m fascinated by places where there are materials in gigantic volumes, for example mountains of scrap metal or the like. And ports like Krems and Kehl store bulk material, which for me is exciting raw material in many ways. That\u2019s why the catalogue in which a large part of the works from this series are illustrated is named \u201craw_material\u201c. What I find fascinating are the raw materials and their diPerent shapes and colors. The enormous quantities of these ma-terials, which are already no longer heaps but take on the dimension of mountains, are overwhelming. And if you think about it, these raw materials are limited on our earth, which means that, consequently, a political aspect is added: the mountains are also metaphors for the accumulation of \u201cfiniteness\u201d.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0e43b89 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"0e43b89\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Why did you choose the port of Krems of all places?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-30ed6f8 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"30ed6f8\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>When I start a new series, I need a lot of time to really get to know the place I want to photograph. Every little detail is important for the preparatory process. Above all, I have to find out what material is available on site, when the terrain is accessible without bo-thering the workers in their daily business, who might be able to help me pile up the mountains and when I have to reckon with a \u201cmountain\u201d being removed again because it is to be transported elsewhere. I do a lot of research beforehand. Since there are not so many cities with harbors or large waste disposal companies that allow a scholarship, my stay in Krems was a real stroke of luck.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-61c197e elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"61c197e\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>And what \u201cmountains\u201d are we talking about in Edenkoben and Kehl?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-f0ce3b4 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"f0ce3b4\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>In Edenkoben it was the recycling area with its plastic waste from vegetable cultivation that impressed me. The use of plastic foils has been common in agriculture for many decades. Whole areas of land are covered with these foils so that theyoung plants are protected, can ripen earlier and, above all, the soil does not dry out. This creates un-imaginable large amounts of plastic waste. By the way, a photography competition organized by the city of Kehl in 2016 brought me there. The competition stipulated that the photographs had to have a specific connection to the city. After several dayson site, I came across the \u201eKehl Mountains\u201d. There, similar to Krems, the staff of the cultural de- partment were surprised that I chose the port as a location. A small coal mountain, heavily eroded by wind and weather, immediately caught my eye at the time. The surface structure and the colorfulness of this mountain had fascinated me extremely. It was the starting point for all the other mountains I subsequently photographed.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-0418553 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"0418553\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>You first studied sculptureat the Art Academy in Stuttgart, then photography at the University of Design in Karlsruhe. Now you work with bulk material as \u201eraw_material\u201d. How did that come about?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3bbac46 elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3bbac46\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>I have to elaborate a bit. In sculpture, there have been classic materials for centuries that have hardly changed until today: stone, wood, bronze and, since the 20th century, indus- trial products such as plastic and steel. This has a certain monotony, especially as the artists enter into a symbiosis with the material over the duration of the work. For me, this view has always been too narrow, and I wanted to expand the sculptural space in the tru-est meaning of the word. For this, another medium like photography became necessary for me. My core question to photography is how to create the impression of space and plasticity on a two-dimensional surface. Additionally, I am extremely curious about everything that defines us as a society. And this bulk and waste material is also a source for the stories of our society \u2013 wood chips, paving stones, silicates, coal, scrap metal, raw steel lenses or even the spar from the Black Forest. In Kehl, millions of particles some-times have a whole world journey behind them and are now piled up anew, put together, separated, then layered again. In Krems, many precious metals are handled. In Eden-koben, it\u2019s the plastic foil from vegetable cultivation. There, a reflection of our material life becomes visible, the history and geography of the specific locations on the one hand, and the global trade in raw materials and waste on the other.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-cf17612 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"cf17612\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>In your photo series you translate this accumulation of industrial raw materials into a strict visual aesthetic. What exactly happens between sculpture and photography?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1264c30 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"1264c30\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Visual aesthetics is what later hangs visibly on the wall as photographic art. But before that, the process of production has to be taken into consideration. I spend a lot of time in the ports and recycling areas, I need to learn about the locations as a whole as much as possible. That\u2019s how I\u2019ve been very close connected to the port in Kehl for more than seven years now.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-571f7fe elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"571f7fe\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Can you tell us a bit more about the production process? It is the \u201einvisible\u201d part of your work, but I think it is important for your work how deep you go into the structures of the locations.<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a47f1a0 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a47f1a0\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>The conceptual part is essential in my work. Locations where I haven\u2019t already been for days with and without a camera to familiarize myself with the place and its materials. The people working on site are also essential. They are almost exclusively men, who are always a bit wary of me and the camera at the beginning. But by and by we get closer and at some point, they even support my work by rearranging the layers and bulk material with their claws and diggers. They think about it and develop their own ideas in relation to my project. I have also been invited to come up to the gantry crane to take photographs from above. While the more recent works from the Mountains series from 2020 onwards were only partly arranged by the workers especially for my photographs, the photographs from the Plastikberge series were modelled exclusively on my instructions with heavy equipment. I particularly like this way of working because the crane operators take over an important part of the working process. They add their own ideas, and so the \u201cMountains\u201d are created in front of the camera in a kind of cooperative collaboration.By now, I\u2019m also almost a pro when it comes to the business prospects of a port and the entire industry. Ports don\u2019t earn their money with storage, but primarily with the handling of materials. It\u2019s notuncommon for huge piles of materials to disappear virtually overnight, only to be replaced by new ones the following day. Exactly which materials are stored where in which port is closely linked to the companies located there. I\u2019m fascinated by trading and working with raw materials throughout the entire supply chain.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a7a285a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a7a285a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Doesn\u2019t this intense interest in the cosmos of the port rather call for documentary photography?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a085572 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"a085572\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>Yes, one might think so. But I think simultaneously as a photographerand sculptress with my own particular interest in how a new plasticity emerges from the interplay of material and space. The Mountain series collected in the catalogue \u201craw_material\u201d illustrate this because the photographs show an enormous presence.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-32ff666 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"32ff666\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Are you influenced here by your studies at the HfG Karlsruhe, where media art is understood in an interdisciplinary and holistic way?<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-b8fde21 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"b8fde21\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>I loved studying at the HfG precisely because it is so open in its media opportunities. For me, it\u2019s natural to digitally assemble my photographs on the computer from many indi-vidual pieces like a puzzle. I knead, model, and grind the data since I got to know many different artistic disciplines during my studies. From film to 3-D modelling, to sceno-graphy to stage design, to programmed computer art. Only at the end of my studies did I realize how much these diverse media influences have shaped me in my work.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-60aac2a elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"60aac2a\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p><strong>Photography and sculpture, I would also like to refer to film as a medium since your works are created in a complex digital post-production. Like a filmmaker in editing, you assemble the photographs from hundreds of individual parts.<\/strong><\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-41e4ac6 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"41e4ac6\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<p>The comparison fits pretty well. My working process is divided into two parts: first, shooting on location with a large selection of different settings and perspectives, followed by weeks of assembly in the studio, including digital post production. Like in an animated film, I string together image after image. But as the material is created over hours and sometimes over days, and the lighting conditions on location are usually not consistent and change again and again, I edit each individual image in advance and then adjust everything to each other at the end. Before that, I deal with the quality of each shot. Several layers of Sharpness are laid on top of each other to ensure that all details in the photo are clearly visible. While I proceed in a grid-like manner when photographing on location, i.e. I scan the object step by step with the camera, it works the other way around in assembling the object in the digital montage. Here, as in film production, I don\u2019t work in a linear way, but in parallel, starting from the center, and working in all directions. I make this great effort because it seems too banal to me to depict the giant size of the mountains of raw materials with just one photo. I would not be able to do justice to the dimensions. Therefore, I enter into the materiality of the digital data and, like a sculptress, model a new work from the digital raw material. And united in you will find a multi-view or rather a multi-perspective that could never be provided with one single photograph.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>amass\u00e9, form\u00e9, stratifi\u00e9, \u00e9largi, r\u00e9tr\u00e9ci, sur\u00e9lev\u00e9, enlev\u00e9 Dr. Helga Huskamp (Directrice du ZKM, 2021 - 2023) en conversation avec Gabriele Engelhardt Lorsque je suis arriv\u00e9e au ZKM, j'ai fait ta connaissance en tant qu'artiste bas\u00e9e \u00e0 Karlsruhe. Mais dans ton \u0153uvre photographique, tu te d\u00e9places dans beaucoup d'autres endroits, tant au niveau du contenu que [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"elementor_header_footer","meta":{"footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-3952","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3952","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3952"}],"version-history":[{"count":13,"href":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3952\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":4320,"href":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/pages\/3952\/revisions\/4320"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.gabriele-engelhardt.com\/fr\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3952"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}